Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

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djysyed
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Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby djysyed » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:41 am

The purpose of this thread is to vent frustrations and relieve the stress of applications. To keep this thread civilized, we should follow a few rules:
1. No asking for profile evaluations. At the end of the day, we're all undergrads who know almost nothing about how admissions committees work besides what our professors tell us.
2. No bragging about your coursework. Everyone here is nervous about applications so keep in mind that showing off all the fancy terms you learned only makes others feel worse. If you want to show off how much math you know, r/math is the place to be. I know this will be difficult to maintain once everyone begins discussing which schools they're applying to and for what area of math.
3. All information about schools should have cited evidence. For example, telling people that UC Berkeley accepts people with below an 800 on the MGRE without being able to say which professor told you this is in bad taste as other people might believe they have a good chance of getting in. Yes I know someone at UC Berkeley who got a 780 but his coursework and research were phenomenal.

I'm feeling really damn anxious about this MGRE coming up. Was told by the grad director from some of the top 20 schools that they weed out any scores below 800 pretty quickly.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby ponchan » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:12 am

"I'm feeling really damn anxious about this MGRE coming up. Was told by the grad director from some of the top 20 schools that they weed out any scores below 800 pretty quickly."

Which schools? You don't follow your own advice and provide citations.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby MMDE » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:38 am

djysyed wrote:I'm feeling really damn anxious about this MGRE coming up. Was told by the grad director from some of the top 20 schools that they weed out any scores below 800 pretty quickly.


Same here, I've been working very hard the past few semesters on my coursework and research and all that hard work really comes down to how I do on this exam. I've never taken it before but I'm going to take both the September and October exam. Good luck to everyone!

Also I believe the 800-score weeding out is mostly for pure programs, but I could be wrong here.

djysyed
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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby djysyed » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:39 pm

ponchan wrote:"I'm feeling really damn anxious about this MGRE coming up. Was told by the grad director from some of the top 20 schools that they weed out any scores below 800 pretty quickly."

Which schools? You don't follow your own advice and provide citations.


Oh woops, sorry about this. I heard this from UCLA's grad director when I asked him why I got rejected last year. A couple professors at UCB also said this when I visited them, as I was in the area during summer.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby clarenthol » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:20 pm

Ok so here's a dilemma that I put myself into. I have an ok profile and my school list is fairly unambitious. In my anxiety before the fall 19 application cycle began I reached out to several nearby unranked programs about my prospects and two have now all but assured me assistantships that would start in January. My top choices however, only accept fall applicants and have much better financial packages if I were to get in at any of them. There is a possibility I could end up having to go to one of these unranked schools anyway in which case it would be preferable to have already started. Are any of you in a similar situation?

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby hopeful » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:10 pm

clarenthol wrote:Ok so here's a dilemma that I put myself into. I have an ok profile and my school list is fairly unambitious. In my anxiety before the fall 19 application cycle began I reached out to several nearby unranked programs about my prospects and two have now all but assured me assistantships that would start in January. My top choices however, only accept fall applicants and have much better financial packages if I were to get in at any of them. There is a possibility I could end up having to go to one of these unranked schools anyway in which case it would be preferable to have already started. Are any of you in a similar situation?


Why are you doing a PhD? If you want to do anything with pure math in the future it will be almost impossible with a PhD from an unknown school.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby blahquaker » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:12 pm

clarenthol wrote:Ok so here's a dilemma that I put myself into. I have an ok profile and my school list is fairly unambitious. In my anxiety before the fall 19 application cycle began I reached out to several nearby unranked programs about my prospects and two have now all but assured me assistantships that would start in January. My top choices however, only accept fall applicants and have much better financial packages if I were to get in at any of them. There is a possibility I could end up having to go to one of these unranked schools anyway in which case it would be preferable to have already started. Are any of you in a similar situation?

I was in a similar situation once upon a time. I was planning on applying to several schools for fall, but went ahead and applied to one school for January on a whim. They notified me in October/November that they couldn't take anyone in January, but they would definitely take me in the fall. Glad to have a sure thing, I didn't even bother applying anywhere else. It ended up being terrible and I left after a year. here I am, several years later and trying to do this whole thing all over again.

If nothing else, I recommend applying to several schools and giving yourself options. visit the schools, talk to people. pick a school because it's a good fit, not because it's convenient.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby whatsamath » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:31 pm

I took the mGRE this past april. I come from a small liberal arts school and I got a score that is pretty average for our program (less than 40%). I'd like to think I'm a good enough student to go to grad school, have a good amount of math courses and even one reu under my belt but this mGre is really making me doubt. I am registered to take it in a week but I have such senioritis, it's the part of my application I've been focusing on less and have been tossing to the side. Can anyone relate? I am indeed sweating :cry:

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby djysyed » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:19 pm

Hey man, I know how you feel. There are people at top 30 universities that get in with only 50th percentiles on the MGRE so there's hope!

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby Aramark » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:38 pm

Okay wait so what exactly have you guys heard about cutoffs and such by place? I'm semi-hyperventilating right now

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby MMDE » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:47 pm

Aramark wrote:Okay wait so what exactly have you guys heard about cutoffs and such by place? I'm semi-hyperventilating right now


When I spoke to someone from Courant I was told most accepted applicants have a mGRE score of at least ~70th percentile.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby ponchan » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:52 pm

Aramark wrote:Okay wait so what exactly have you guys heard about cutoffs and such by place? I'm semi-hyperventilating right now


CU Boulder says on their website that most successful applicants score above 750 (roughly 70th%).

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby Banach-Steinhaus » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:44 pm

Aramark wrote:Okay wait so what exactly have you guys heard about cutoffs and such by place? I'm semi-hyperventilating right now


I came across this post when I was googling expected Math GRE scores for PhD programs: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3847

I don’t know how accurate it is, but I found it super helpful. That post was actually how I found this website.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby blahquaker » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:15 pm

University of Washinton: GRE Math Subject Test: The majority of applicants admitted to our Ph.D. program score higher than the 70th percentile on the Math Subject GRE, and almost all score higher than the 55th percentile.

Ohio State: The median percentile for domestic students is 67, the one for international students is 95.

University of Georgia: the middle 80% of our entering graduate students since Fall 2010 had GRE scores in the following ranges: Verbal: 144-164, Quantitative: 161-166, Mathematics Subject: 580-736

University of South Carolina: (subject GRE is optional) If you score above 600, include your test score in your application, it will strengthen it. On the other hand, a weak GRE Subject score (below 400) weakens your application considerably.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby ponchan » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:45 am

blahquaker wrote:University of Washinton: GRE Math Subject Test: The majority of applicants admitted to our Ph.D. program score higher than the 70th percentile on the Math Subject GRE, and almost all score higher than the 55th percentile.

Ohio State: The median percentile for domestic students is 67, the one for international students is 95.

University of Georgia: the middle 80% of our entering graduate students since Fall 2010 had GRE scores in the following ranges: Verbal: 144-164, Quantitative: 161-166, Mathematics Subject: 580-736

University of South Carolina: (subject GRE is optional) If you score above 600, include your test score in your application, it will strengthen it. On the other hand, a weak GRE Subject score (below 400) weakens your application considerably.


It's worth noting that these scores aren't always sufficient either. I know someone with a 66% on mGRE, and a 3.9 who was rejected from Georgia last year. It could be the case that these numbers are from several years ago and are now outdated.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby djysyed » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:35 pm

ponchan wrote:It's worth noting that these scores aren't always sufficient either. I know someone with a 66% on mGRE, and a 3.9 who was rejected from Georgia last year. It could be the case that these numbers are from several years ago and are now outdated.


THere's also many other factors that go into decisions. From what I know, your letters of recommendation contribute 40%, coursework/grades = 30%, GRE Subject is 20% and Statement of Purpose = 10%. Maybe someone just took really easy classes to boost their GPA but never took core undergraduate classes like Topology or Complex Analysis.

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Re: Fall 2018 Sweat Thread

Postby ponchan » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:40 pm

That's not the case with this person. They took hard classes. It's just getting much more competitive each year.




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