M.Sc from UK and EU

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yaskhn3
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M.Sc from UK and EU

Postby yaskhn3 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:41 pm

Hello everyone!

I have been thinking to apply for masters course in UK or EU. According to the rankings, following are the top universities:

Cambridge
Oxford
ETH Zurich
Imperial college
Ecole Polytechnique
Ecole Punimian
Bonn
TU Berlin

A typical Masters programme is of 1 year ( 9 month work) here. I have the following queries:

1. Does any of these have a 2 year Masters like the US?

2. Do they have Integrated PhD program?

3. What's the scene of funding?

Thanks!

djysyed
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Re: M.Sc from UK and EU

Postby djysyed » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:47 am

In Europe, it is common for students to do a four year BS + MMath program since students in europe begin specializing after the age of 16. As such, masters programs are only a year long. According to some friends of mine, students take about 4-5 graduate classes per semester and are expected to pass a comprehensive final exam at the end of each term. There is no homework.

In terms of funding, there is some financial aid available but you will likely have to pay the full tuition yourself. In the US, your teaching assistantship pays off your tuition and leads to some stipend.

orbital1337
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Re: M.Sc from UK and EU

Postby orbital1337 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:37 pm

yashkhn3 wrote:1. Does any of these have a 2 year Masters like the US?

2. Do they have Integrated PhD program?

3. What's the scene of funding?


1. In most parts of continental Europe a masters degree takes 2 years (120 ECTS credits) or sometimes 1.5 years (90 ECTS credits). On the other hand, in the UK most masters programs take 1 year. For example, Bonn and Berlin offer 120 point programs and Zurich offers a 90 point program. However, even within programs that officially require the same amount of work (these points correspond to some arbitrary number of work hours), there may be substantial differences. Bonn and Berlin are even within the same country and yet in Bonn you'll work on your masters thesis for 1 year whereas in Berlin you work on your thesis for 6 months.

2. Some do but they are not the "normal" way to get a PhD in continental Europe. Usually you would complete a normal masters degree and then (a) start a PhD in the research group of your masters thesis advisor (b) get referred to another research group by your advisor or (c) apply for a particular PhD project. However, in any of these cases a PhD typically takes 3-4 years and does not come with any required coursework.

3. This differs vastly by country especially since some countries have fairly high tuition fees (eg. UK) whereas some have very low fees (eg. France, Germany).

djysyed wrote:In Europe, it is common for students to do a four year BS + MMath program since students in europe begin specializing after the age of 16. As such, masters programs are only a year long. According to some friends of mine, students take about 4-5 graduate classes per semester and are expected to pass a comprehensive final exam at the end of each term. There is no homework.

In terms of funding, there is some financial aid available but you will likely have to pay the full tuition yourself. In the US, your teaching assistantship pays off your tuition and leads to some stipend.


You are describing the system in the UK which is very different from the system in continental Europe.

mishania1996
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Re: M.Sc from UK and EU

Postby mishania1996 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:54 pm

Bonn and TU Berlin(which is the part of BerlinMathematicalSchool) are free of tuition fees as well as application fees. Both are supposed to be finished in 2 years. There is even scholarship for some of the students 800-880 Euros/month.

More detailed info about the content of the Master's programs can be found here https://www.mathematics.uni-bonn.de/stu ... er/program and https://www.math-berlin.de/about-bms.




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