VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

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Forte
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VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby Forte » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:45 am

Hi guys,

I graduated in May and I am currently applying for various PhD programs. I am a very poor standardized tester. Never been good at them. On the practice subject GREs I would score around 85% but my actual score was 13%. I don't struggle on math tests where I actually have time to think about the problems, it's just these tests where I am cranking out 60 answers in 3 hours really don't go well with me. :oops: :oops: :( .

My GPA was around a 3.7 I did an undergraduate thesis in Module Theory, I have taken a course in Finite Group Theory: Sylow theorems, Hall pi-subgroups, etc. I have taken Galois Theory, Analysis, Topology, Geometry, etc. Got A's in all of them. I am really interested in schools that have Algebra programs but I really don't know where to apply to since I can't really provide my MGRE score. My regular GRE scores are also relatively weak.

Quantatative: 165 (89%)
Verbal: 157 (75%)
Writing: 4.5 (82%).

I have 3 strong recommendations, maybe a 4th because I have been teaching high school math and my department head approached me saying she'd be happy to write a very strong recommendation. I also have done Math research at my college with a professor.

Anyone who has any insight into schools that would accept me without the math GRE I'd be really appreciative. I'm having a hard time finding schools that don't require or seriously recommend it.

Also, I'm an American student.

FreddieBiddleBooty
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby FreddieBiddleBooty » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:11 pm

You could always ask your professors. This would be more helpful than asking people on this site. Even better, email the grad coordinators at places you want to apply and ask them.

But personally I think your credentials look pretty good. You can apply to schools that don't require the test, too.

whatstheprobability
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby whatstheprobability » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:27 pm

Seriously recommended doesn’t imply necessary. Don’t worry too much. Your other credentials seem strong and solid letters of recommendation matter.

Forte
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby Forte » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:41 pm

FreddieBiddleBooty wrote:But personally I think your credentials look pretty good. You can apply to schools that don't require the test, too.


The issue is I'm having trouble finding schools that don't require it. Most either require or "seriously recommend." I am mostly looking for advice on how to find schools that don't require it. I have the AMS list of all grad programs but those aren't sorted by GRE requirements. Only by state or degree or whatnot.

Tianma799
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby Tianma799 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:10 pm

Forte wrote:
FreddieBiddleBooty wrote:But personally I think your credentials look pretty good. You can apply to schools that don't require the test, too.


The issue is I'm having trouble finding schools that don't require it. Most either require or "seriously recommend." I am mostly looking for advice on how to find schools that don't require it. I have the AMS list of all grad programs but those aren't sorted by GRE requirements. Only by state or degree or whatnot.


Search the forum, there were some posts talking about that and including a list of schools that don't require it.

djysyed
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby djysyed » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:50 pm

UIC, their Algebraic Geometry and Commutative Algebra has become stronger over the years and the professors are very understanding. You could always say you came down with a flu.
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Forte
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby Forte » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:57 pm

djysyed wrote:UIC, they're Algebraic Geometry and Commutative Algebra has become stronger over the years and the professors are very understanding. You could always say you came down with a flu.


That actually happened to me last year when I took it as a senior. I was sick and had to leave around an hour in.

MathCat
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby MathCat » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:57 am

I'm not sure of a good way to find schools that don't require mGRE, but there are quite a lot of quite good schools that don't. I would say to just look at schools that interest you and check if they say the mGRE is required. It may not be fast, but it's worth it to spend time on this decision!

Also, if it is feasible for you, schools outisde of the US mostly do not require GRE scores of any kind. For example, in Canada, I'm not aware of any program that requires it. Keep in mind that if you were to go anywhere other than the US straight from undergrad, you would be looking at masters programs. In Canada at least, almost all masters programs are funded, unlike in the US. Also there usually is a research component (vs. masters programs in the US that are mostly course based). You would then go on to a PhD program, which if you stayed in Canada, is typically 3-4 years instead of the usual 5 years in the US.

djysyed
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby djysyed » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:49 am

I recommend sending it and saying you got the flu. From the looks of it, if you did well in Topology, Algebra and Analysis, they'll most likely believe that you were sick.

Forte
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby Forte » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:54 am

djysyed wrote:I recommend sending it and saying you got the flu. From the looks of it, if you did well in Topology, Algebra and Analysis, they'll most likely believe that you were sick.



Yeah. I got A's in Algebra, Algebra 2 and Finite Group Theory. I got A-'s in Analysis and Topology.

mathisawesome
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Re: VERY LOW GRE Score: Need help finding Ph.D programs with Algebra research

Postby mathisawesome » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:05 pm

Forte wrote:
FreddieBiddleBooty wrote:But personally I think your credentials look pretty good. You can apply to schools that don't require the test, too.


The issue is I'm having trouble finding schools that don't require it. Most either require or "seriously recommend." I am mostly looking for advice on how to find schools that don't require it. I have the AMS list of all grad programs but those aren't sorted by GRE requirements. Only by state or degree or whatnot.



There is no way around it. What I did was, I put in a filter for geometry/topology in the AMS list and literally looked up the MGRE requirements of several tens of schools. Time consuming but you'd know for certain where to apply. Probably try with an algebra filter.




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