lambert wrote:I don't think scores below 800 automatically make your chances slim for top 20 if you're an international. This is my understanding:
- Standards for international and domestic applicants seem to be about the same, at least for top universities (smaller schools with less money might prefer to support US applicants). I guess domestic people mainly have a small advantage because committees are more likely to be familiar with their school / grading system or know their recommenders.
- Top 20 is not *that* competitive to get into. In the top 20 you have Harvard but you also have Maryland, the point being that some schools have laxer admission standards. I think UPenn has mentioned that they like scores 750 or above and median score in their enrollment is about 820 ... Michigan has stated similar things and it's a top 10 school. 800 is just a figure, not a hard cutoff.
- People have been accepted with significantly less glowing scores than the norm. Two years ago a person got into Berkeley with a 660. That might depend on how special your situation is though (i.e. what every department says about "outstanding qualities" in an application).
In sum there's no use worrying too much about your scores (I know I'm saying this on *the* math gre forum, obviously people here care more about them than the average applicant, but anyway...). There's not much you can do about them now anyway. I'd say apply even to places you think are a complete crapshot (with your wallet being the limiting factor), you never know how it will go. It's much better than staying in the dark wondering what if.
Maybe you won't get into MIT or Princeton but you may end up somewhere where you find it great. You don't *have* to go to those schools to become a good mathematician anyway. Alternatively if you're hellbent on getting into the top of the top (I don't personally think this is a great idea but it's your decision) you can always try again next year and do something worthwhile in the meantime.
EGA wrote:Some schools almost certainly have a bias towards domestic applicants (Ohio for example), but I don't think this is the norm. I agree Stanford is a stretch for 770 (though I'm still applying with a 750), but I definitely would not rule out Yale. I really don't think Yale will perceive a 770 as a weak score - sure, it won't stand out, but it certainly doesn't disqualify you, especially if you're a good research fit for the department.
stalemilk94 wrote:You should still apply to all the to (unless you are short on cash). Some useful information here: https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/ ... _math_gre/