curvature-form wrote:Undergrad Institution: Well known school
Major(s): Computer Science BSc, Mathematics MSc
Minor(s):
GPA: 3.6
Type of Student: Domestic, Male
GRE Revised General Test:
Q: 158 (80%)
V: 165 (89%)
W: 4.5 (82%)
GRE Subject Test in Mathematics:
M: 720 (64%)
TOEFL Score: Not applicable.
Program Applying: Pure Math / Applied Math
Research Experience: Two years of research in applied mathematics and differential geometry. Submitting our research for publication this month.
Awards/Honors/Recognitions: N/A
Pertinent Activities or Jobs: TA for introductory proof based mathematics course. Several software engineering internships.
Any Miscellaneous Points that Might Help: 18 graduate courses in mathematics (mostly analysis -- harmonic analysis, functional analysis, PDE, geometry, Sobolev and BV spaces, optimal transportation, etc. / some category theory and homological algebra, and nonlinear optimization). Recommendation letters from very well known professors.
Any Other Info That Shows Up On Your App and Might Matter: N/A
Applying to Where:
Princeton - Pure Math - Rejected on 1/30
Columbia - Pure Math - Rejected on 2/5
UT Austin - Pure Math - Accepted on 2/7
MIT - Pure Math - Accepted on 2/8
MIT - EECS - Accepted on 2/7
UCLA - Pure Math - Accepted on 1/19
UC Davis - Applied Math - Accepted on 1/19
NYU - Pure Math - Accepted on 2/7
University of Chicago - Pure Math - Rejected on 2/8
Caltech - ACM - Accepted on 2/26
Carnegie Mellon University - Pure Math - Accepted on 2/21
Duke - Applied Math - Rejected on 2/9
Brown - Applied Math - Accepted on 2/8
paarthsaarthi wrote:Undergrad Institution: Big Indian (but not known for Mathematics) and big UK (well-known for Mathematics)
Major(s): Mathematics (Geometry and Topology)
Minor(s):
GPA:
Type of Student: International(Indian), Male
GRE Revised General Test:
Q: 164
V: 156
W: 3.5
GRE Subject Test in Mathematics:
M: 680 (55%) (October 2013)
TOEFL Score: (101 = R27/L25/S24/W25) (if applicable)
Program Applying: Geometric Group Theory: Mapping Class Groups, Teichmuller Theory, etc. Flat Structures and Moduli.
Research Experience: One master's thesis, several undergraduate projects, two presentations, no published works.
Awards/Honors/Recognitions: NSO Silver Medal, NBHM MA/MSc Scholarship, several research fellowships
Pertinent Activities or Jobs: NTT assistant professor at home institution
Any Miscellaneous Points that Might Help: advanced applicant, broad range of knowledge and focussed interest.
Any Other Info That Shows Up On Your App and Might Matter: Ordinary recommendations, big people though.
Applying to Where: (Color use here is welcome)
UIUC ! - Waitlisted (27/02/2018) rejected (13/04/2018)
LSU - Waitlisted (27/02/2018) Accepted with 22k TAship (16/04/2018)
GaTech ! - Rejected (13/02/2018)
UCSB - Rejected (06/02/2018)
Suny at Buffalo ! - Rejected (19/03/2018)
Tufts - Rejected (19/03/2018)
Vanderbilt ! - Rejected (23/03/2018)
CUNY ! - Pending on (24/03/2018) - Never heard back
BostonC ! - Pending on (24/03/2018) - Never heard back
SUNY Binghamton ! -Pending on (24/03/2018) - Rejected (crazy morons! They told me that I'm a very advanced and dedicated student and won't like the environment at SUNY Binghamton.)
Oklahoma -Pending on (24/03/2018) - Never heard back !
SUNY Albany - Pending on (24/03/2018) - Rejected (16/04/2018)
Arkansas ! - Pending on (24/03/2018) - Accepted w 14,600 TA (16/04/2018)
! = potential match of research interest.
I have assumed that I have been rejected from the universities I have never heard back. I decided to post this as I felt that being an international candidate I have been misled by the data on the forum. Since I have a good friendship with many well-known mathematicians, for the sake of future international candidate, I would like to talk about certain realities. First that the university's claim that all candidates are given equal opportunity is a bluff - not because that they are partial but because of the difference in education system which makes it much easier for US undergraduates to get into US grad program (it shouldn't surprise anyone). Second, that your personal statement is very important is also a bluff (but that doesn't mean that you should be sloppy.) Third 'your recommendation is the most important part of your application' is another bluff (I would suggest a blog by Igor Pak if you don't believe me.) What is the most important thing is your undergraduate institution. So, if you want to go to a good grad school then you should consider it four years before you apply. But, if you are here reading this then most probably you have already spent most of your undergraduate years. So, let me write a final remark - the best idea is to grab it from wherever you get it - you just need one place. Since, we are not living in the Gottingen era, but in the pragmatic world where success generate success. Your good grades in school would help you to get in to good undergraduate programs, and an active life (e.g. REU) will help you to get in to a good graduate programs. What next? May be it also help you in good post-doc, but what next? Here's an excerpt from an interview of J. P. Serre: "When I was in college, the journals were full of researches in Topology which made me so scared of my own ability. Most of these are forgotten now; they deserved so." (Not the exact words) So, just take a look around, and you would found a number of well-known mathematician from average grad programs, and you won't find a trace of many graduates of Princeton, MIT, etc. Life is the second most complicated dynamical systems I have ever come across. Good Luck to those people who got into some grad program. Have a nice mathematical journey ahead.
paarthsaarthi wrote:At the same time, the mathematical environment at Glasgow and Bristol is no less than that of Stanford, or MIT
paarthsaarthi wrote:that's why went on applying places despite I had no intention to go there (as I'm already doing my PhD from Max Planck Institue).
lambert wrote:paarthsaarthi wrote:At the same time, the mathematical environment at Glasgow and Bristol is no less than that of Stanford, or MIT
lol, come on son.
paarthsaarthi wrote:lambert wrote:paarthsaarthi wrote:At the same time, the mathematical environment at Glasgow and Bristol is no less than that of Stanford, or MIT
lol, come on son.
I don't know how should I put it, but if you have read Hardy's lecture of "Waring's Conjecture" he talks about the difference in the mathematical tradition in UK, and in Germany and France.
I don't know how should I put it, but if you have read Hardy's lecture of "Waring's Conjecture" he talks about the difference in the mathematical tradition in UK, and in Germany and France.
Wasn't this 100 years ago?
paarthsaarthi wrote:I don't know how should I put it, but if you have read Hardy's lecture of "Waring's Conjecture" he talks about the difference in the mathematical tradition in UK, and in Germany and France.Wasn't this 100 years ago?
100 years ago, it was terrible, and the gap was huge with political factor of colonial arrogance mixed. Today it's not of that kind, I mean no such thing as political or nationalistic non-sense involved, but more related to emphesis. I'm trying my best to put things precise, and I think the best I can suggest is one article by V. I. Arnold. Google "Arnold on teaching mathematics". This's not the all as Arnold compares only two of the prominent schools, but it's something of this kind that I am talking.
(PS:- I don't hate anything more than the people. And there's nothing as irritating to me as having a conversation with someone, especially when that conversation is not objective in nature. So, please don't mind if I choose not to talk to you anymore. My only goal was to help misinformed international students, and I will like to stick to that. There were some problem in that comment for prospective students which I have corrected now.)
spijuank wrote:Okay objectively speaking, your test scores were pretty mediocre. No need to write a philosophical treatise explaining why so many places rejected you.
Okay objectively speaking, your test scores were pretty mediocre. No need to write a philosophical treatise explaining why so many places rejected you.
grothendieck wrote:Okay objectively speaking, your test scores were pretty mediocre. No need to write a philosophical treatise explaining why so many places rejected you.
Well, I think he's dropped enough hint that I can recognise him. If it is the same person then he is capable of getting into any grad school only because of his master's thesis (just like he got into many universities in UK and France). He did tell us about this but we thought that he was joking. It always fascinates me that how an extreme introvert, who barely talks, cares so much about human welfare; this quality of him amazed us all. Anyway, spending more than 1000 gbp just to know some kind of truth sounds both crazy and deserves some respect.
Okay objectively speaking, your test scores were pretty mediocre. No need to write a philosophical treatise explaining why so many places rejected you.
ponchan wrote:grothendieck wrote:Okay objectively speaking, your test scores were pretty mediocre. No need to write a philosophical treatise explaining why so many places rejected you.
Well, I think he's dropped enough hint that I can recognise him. If it is the same person then he is capable of getting into any grad school only because of his master's thesis (just like he got into many universities in UK and France). He did tell us about this but we thought that he was joking. It always fascinates me that how an extreme introvert, who barely talks, cares so much about human welfare; this quality of him amazed us all. Anyway, spending more than 1000 gbp just to know some kind of truth sounds both crazy and deserves some respect.
Again, he said "I don't hate anything more than the people". I don't know how that translates to "cares so much about human welfare". In fact, it is the opposite. But really, it appears that this might just be a second account for the same person
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