AMGMScrub wrote:Unless you have seen the LORs, how do you know it is strong? Likewise with the SOP.
ghjk wrote:I have a different thought than SoulOnIce. First, I'm very concerned about your Math GPA, as honestly, it's quite low compared to that of the candidate pool, assuming your target school is Duke, UW (or even UCSD). I think you should spend at least a few sentences in your application explaining which courses that you did terribly and WHY (hopefully it's Calculus, or some 1st/2nd-year course. In that case, the admission officers will be more lenient). Second, how well you did on your grad courses will be valuable, as it shows the admission somewhat of your potential to at least not fail the qual/prelim exam so that you can at least get a Master, or advance to candidacy. Third, and this is probably make or break if you want to get into Duke or UW, where is your research experience? If you tell me you haven't done much (like no publication or no praise on your research capability in the LORs), then that's dangerous, unless the LOR said something like "he's the best student I have ever had in my 20-30 years of teaching/sending students to top grad schools. I have no doubt he will soon be able to produce high-quality papers at top journals in the research field of his choice."! Duke and UW are VERY competitive if your goal is to apply to Pure/Applied Math (UW is one of the top 10 programs in Applied Math), so I think you hedged your bet well with other schools.
I'm sorry if it sounds discouraging to you (I tried to avoid coming across as that), but the reality is that you only have an average application. You should consider math-related fields, like Economics or Finance or Operation Research, if you're not totally committed to pure math - the toughest research world.
Best of luck to you, and let me know how things go!
SoulOnIce wrote:Your stats look fine for your schools. Duke's website for Pure Math says that "most of the students accepted have subject test scores above 50%", which you are, and your other "reach" schools are in pretty much the same tier (i.e. Top 15-30 schools like UCSD, Purdue, U Wash). So I think you would make the cut in that regard.
I would be a bit concerned about GPA since Notre Dame, a school of similar caliber, has an average accepted GPA clocking in around 3.7 or even 3.8 (as posted on their math Ph.D website). In this regard, your GPA would be slightly under average, but its definitely not enough to rule you out of the competition, since you are quite close (even without your community college GPA factored in). That aside, I would consider Rochester and UCSC (I'm guessing it's Santa Cruz) as decently safe choices (Top 60-75 schools).
As a whole, it seems pretty realistic. If it were me, I would expect a rejection or two from your top schools on average. The exact number would mostly be swayed by LoR's or even the SOP. If you can afford it, try to add one more school in the Top 40-60 range (like NC State, Boston U, etc.). I know that Ohio State's application fee is $5, and UFlorida's is $35. Hope this helps.
AMGMScrub wrote:I only mentioned this because many applicants seem to think they have strong LOR and SOPs. Maybe you should ask you letter writters on what they think your chances are at these schools.
stokped wrote:If you include my community college grades, my major GPA is 3.75 which I think is perfectly okay and I don't think I did "terribly" in any class. I never got below a B in any math class. And my research experience comes from doing a senior thesis (which was published), along with some reading (as I had said). I have a letter of rec from both professors and both really like me.
I am totally committed to pure math. I have no interest in economics or finance or operation research.
Thank you, and I don't think you meant that OSU's app fee is $5
My major GPA including CC is 3.75 which is smack in the middle of the average accepted GPA.
Either way, thanks.
crow1664 wrote:Hi hi, just for your information, the courses you have taken and your academic experience are pretty reasonable; what worry me are the GPA and GRE subs, which seemingly need some slight explanation
AMGMScrub wrote:It's not that your GPA is bad. A thing to note is that the people you will be competing for admissions will on average have higher gpas. Likewise for the math subject GRE. Though this will vary from year to year.