packfan89 wrote: KatrinaElizabeth wrote:
SoulOnIce wrote:It's entirely possible that schools will look at your MGRE score and trash your application. Some schools publicize their average subject test scores (UPenn's 820 average, Berkeley's 80% rule, Duke "mostly admitting" >50th percentile, etc.). While not exactly "hard cut-offs", it at least indicates that they have certain expectations and standards for the Math GRE to almost exclusively admit within their score ranges.
What would an admissions committee think I cannot tell you, because they are all different. With very low MGRE scores, my prof suggests to only apply to schools with the subject test requirement only if you really, really like their program. A friend of mine (also with grades close to straight A's) got a score very close to your's, but is applying to high-end schools anyway. I would say the chance of acceptance, unfortunately, is much lower given the scores, but not impossible. It would depend on the committee.
I agree that these are not hard cut-offs in any way. I applied to 15 schools with an MGRE score of 660 (51%), knowing some of the schools may instantly disregard my application due to the score. I still wonder how many did just that. But with a score in the 51st percentile, I did get into Berkeley! It is definitely possible. Likely? Nothing is 'likely' with top schools. But I'm proof that Berkeley doesn't just throw away the scores below 700, etc. Anyway, I wish you and all future applicants the best of luck!
Congrats on getting into Berkeley!
What do you think was your differentiator for getting in? I'm an applied math/stats major looking at stats schools so I know it is a little different ball game but I am often fascinated by the admissions process and love to hear from those that got into dream schools
It's hard to say! Getting into Berkeley was certainly a delight! I'm very excited.
I had four letter-writers, including one from Budapest. I waived my right to view any of them, although one professor later showed me the letter they wrote and it was pretty fantastic. One of my other letter writers gave me a C in Calc III, my only C in a math class, but I think this helped to paint context for the background behind that rough semester, and that the professor still admired me greatly as a student despite giving me the low grade. Maybe that helped? I wasn't sure if it would help or hurt. Keep in mind that one of my safety schools, University of Oregon, rejected me. :-/
I think my participation in multiple math programs also helped. It's difficult to get accepted into programs like HCSSiM, PROMYS, and Ross, so it shows I have some degree of mathematical talent I suppose. Along with top 500 on the Putnam.
As for coursework, I don't think I would've been a serious competitor at any top 40 school without the year of courses I took in Budapest. That helped put me on a fair level with other applicants I think.
My statement of purpose chronicled my lifelong journey through mathematics and my love of learning, teaching and conducting research. It showed how math has been a very integral piece of my life journey. Because it's my story, it's very unique to me, so I'm not sure I can say anything too specific that would be helpful for future applicants.
My biggest advice to current undergrads is probably to go to Budapest. Best program ever.
Also to be sincere in everything you present through your application. Let them get to know you.
Oh, and my math resume/ CV was very unique. The last page was a picture of my yearbook from Ross Program (candid student praise). :-p