European(The Netherlands) confused about Grad School

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European(The Netherlands) confused about Grad School

Postby 3L37R1Ph13D » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:31 pm

I am currently a second year undergraduate mathematics student in the Netherlands, with a 4.0 gpa (8/10 average grade) and I'm looking to apply for graduate school (In the USA) starting in the fall of 2015. I have a couple of questions though.

-In my country it is required to get a master's degree before doing a PHD, and write a huge (one year) Thesis at the end. Basicly everyone gets a Masters degree (tuition is 2k/year), even the people that dont want to do research. It seems that the preferable option in the USA is to do graduate school, which basicly the master's and the phd combined. Is getting a master's degree first looked down upon in the US?

-I am going to be writing a Bachelor Thesis this summer/fall, is this an important part of the application?

-My undergraduate program is quite extensive, covering differential geometry/algebraic topology/complex analysis/measure theory/functional analysis/logic&axiomatic set theory, and I will also be taking 3/4 graduate courses (commutative algebra/algebraic geometry/harmonic analysis) next year. It seems that math undergraduate programs in the USA generally dont cover as much (from reading about it online). Is this true?

-Are all PHD's fully funded, or will I still have to pay tuition?

-Will I need to get a special visa to work in the USA (I know I will need one to study)?

-It is expected of foreigners to also take the GRE?

I could also take the safe route, and do a Master's degree in my country and then try to apply for a PHD program afterwards, and I might. But it seems beneficial to do my Graduate studies somewhere else then my bachelor, and my country is quite small so the differences will be neglible.

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Re: European(The Netherlands) confused about Grad School

Postby bobn » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:45 pm

1/6. Getting a good Master's is always big advantage.
2. I know lot of people who took 20+ grad level courses. If you want to get into Harvard, almost all applicants have 5-6 grad courses min. So, your program is not quite rigorous yet. (But in US, grad courses are not mandatory so, you might have seen/read about people who take easy courses).

3. Top schools(or even decent ones) take students iff they can fund them fully.

4.Yes, you should get H1/J1 to work (J1 is for academic research related work like post doc).

5. Even US citizens should take both GRE. Unless you are applying for a low grade school.

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